This weekend I’m really excited to welcome Terry Tyler to the blog! Terry has agreed to let me interview her following the release of her latest novel, The House of York. (You can read my review of Terry’s book at the end of the post.) This is an intriguing book, not least of all because it uses – albeit loosely – the characters and plot line from a major historical event. It’s not a historical novel, however – this is bang up-to-date contemporary fiction, and is currently riding high in the charts. Let’s find out a bit more about why and how Terry did it …
So, Terry, The House of York, which I loved so much, is a contemporary novel with more than a passing link to historical events. What gave you the idea for linking it to the Wars of the Roses in this way, and can you think of any other novels that have taken up this idea? I can’t.
“What, you mean apart from my earlier novels, Kings and Queens and Last Child, that mirror the Tudor period?! Aha, you unwittingly provided such a book-plugging opportunity, Jo 😉
But seriously…. I have to admit that the idea stemmed from Susan Howatch’s wonderful Cashelmara (a 19th century retelling of the story of Edwards I and II), and The Wheel of Fortune (The Black Prince, Richard II and Henry IV). I first read these books about 25 years ago and, thus, my interest in the Plantagenets began, as I wanted to find out the real stories behind her novels. I’ve had a bit of a thing for the Wars of the Roses since reading Phillipa Gregory’s The Red Queen (about Margaret Beaufort, a fascinating woman; she inspired Megan in The House of York). But these three of my books are, essentially, just contemporary dramas; no historical knowledge necessary! For my two test readers, I have one history lover and one who knows nothing about it and cares even less, to get a good balance.”
I thought the combination of different first person viewpoints was masterful – and this is something a lot of writers find it very hard to pull off. What advice can you give to other novelists who would like to try this technique but have been warned off, or put off, by reports that readers don’t like it/find it confusing?
“Only use this structure if you feel confident doing so. I think to pull it off successfully you have to become the person you’re writing; I remember when I was writing the prissy Jenny (Jane Seymour) in Kings and Queens, I suddenly realised I was sitting like she might, with a Jenny-type expression on my face! The ‘voice’ has to change: the vocabulary, the mood, everything. You need to be aware of the differences in how men and women think, the ways in which people express themselves according to levels of education, and the effect of upbringing, experience and social class on their attitudes. Having read The House of York, you may have noticed how bookish, middle class Megan ‘speaks’ very differently from working class single mum Lisa! Several times I had to stop and think, no, that word is in Megan’s and my vocabulary, but it wouldn’t be in Lisa’s.
This structure might not be within every writer’s repertoire (as, indeed, some styles are outside mine) and, as you say, it won’t appeal to every reader, but I can only write the book I want to write. Again, it was Susan Howatch who gave me the idea. If done well (and I would never flatter myself that I have her skill!), it gives the reader knowledge that the other characters do not possess. Often, this can give the story a new and surprising perspective; perhaps Person C isn’t quite as confident/cold/sincere as Persons A and B might have led you to believe…”
You’ve now published an astonishing eleven books on Amazon, and I get the feeling you’re only just getting into your stride. I’m sure I’m not the only person who wants to know the following:
Where do you get your energy from???
How do you keep the tone and voice of each novel so fresh?
How do you find time to write, edit and publish quality novels and still have … a life?
“Jo, I just love writing, I can’t imagine not doing so! I wrote nine (or it might be ten, I can’t remember) novels back in the 1990s, before Amazon self-publishing. As for energy and time, you ought to see the state of my house!!! I don’t go out to work and don’t have children, which immediately gives me more hours in the day than many people. I don’t cook much, only watch television after 9pm when I’m done with everything else for the day, and rarely go out in the evenings. In fact, I don’t go out much at all; my husband is a homebird so I’ve got used to that, and he’s very laid back; being creative himself, he understands that I need time to write. It’s just what I do, I suppose. Two years ago, I actually spent Christmas afternoon editing Kings and Queens. We don’t really do Christmas, either!
As for the tone and voice being fresh – thank you, it’s something I always worry about. A lot! If this is so, I think maybe it’s by not doing the ‘expected’ … for instance, in Dream On, the reader first meets Janice, a mum with a wannabe rockstar boyfriend, Dave, who she suspects is still in love with his beautiful ex. Okay, so everyone likes and sympathises with Janice; she is no wimp, and is someone many women can relate to. Then along comes Ariel, the beautiful ex – and, surprise surprise, she’s not a self-obsessed, conniving bitch, but a really great girl! Quite a lot of the reviews said ‘I was surprised to find myself liking Ariel’. And in What It Takes, I took a risk by making my main character not very likable at all. I try to do the unguessable with plot twists; I am not sure if I will be able to beat the one at the end of The House of York, though, what do you think? :)”
Your books are, I think, only available on Amazon in ebook format. Do you intend to branch out to other eretailers, and if not why? And what about paperback?
“Other retailers: I haven’t got any plans to do so, partly out of laziness but mostly because people who do publish across many sites say that the lion’s share of their sales still come from Amazon.
Paperbacks: yes, I keep saying I will, but it doesn’t happen … I sway between ‘I really ought to’ and ‘but perhaps it’s not worth it, everyone says nearly all their sales come from ebooks’. I’m not one of those who are desperate to see my name on a paperback, although yes, I suppose it would be nice to be able to give books to friends who don’t use ereaders (not to mention seeing them in book shops, I imagine that’s quite a kick!), but I prefer reading on Kindle myself, anyway. It’s the words on the page that matter, not the medium. I think the truth about me and paperbacks is simply this: I haven’t got round to it :)”
Finally, you are the Twitter queen – 64.7K followers – count them! I’m guessing this has taken a fair amount of time and effort to build, but in terms of reader engagement and book promotion, do you feel that Twitter is the place to be, even for those of us with a more modest following? What other forms of promotion have you tried, and what would you recommend to other writers just starting out?
“I’m not very astute about all this stuff, to be honest; I could do more, and better. Different things work for different people. I’ve never heard good reports from anyone who’s paid for advertising or promotion via book marketers. I enjoy Twitter, otherwise I wouldn’t use it so much, but these days the market is so overflowing that just tweeting your book and retweeting a few others is unlikely to produce sales, unless your readership is already established. You have to invest a bit more time in it; network with others who write your type of book, get involved with the bloggers who promote and review them, add as friends and interact with likely readers. Be generous, don’t only promote your own stuff, but be sincere too; don’t rave about books you haven’t read or didn’t like. Oh, and getting into 5* review swaps with other writers is a seriously bad idea; it’s already put the whole Amazon reviewing system into disrepute.
I’ve been using Twitter for over four years, and after 10k followers it just grew of its own accord; I don’t actively pursue them. If you’re active on the site, you appear in lots of ‘who to follow’ lists. The best promotion tool is, of course, a really good book; competition is much, much stronger these days, and if your book is only mediocre, readers will not review it or buy another one, however many tweets and Facebook posts you do, however sharp your marketing skills. One of the biggest problem non-traditionally-published writers face is getting someone to try their book in the first place; with jam-packed Kindles everywhere, if I knew the answer to that one I expect I’d sell a lot more than I do! I think you’d be a better person to consult about that, Jo, than me.
Many, many thanks for inviting me onto your blog, and may your own success continue :)”
Thanks for coming on, Terry – it’s been really interesting finding out all about your process and I always love picking your brains about writing and publishing. I’m sure readers will carry on enjoying your books for a long time to come. Guys, you can connect with and find out more about Terry and her books below, and carry on down the page to read my review of The House of York.
Twitter
https://twitter.com/TerryTyler4
Amazon UK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terry-Tyler/e/B00693EGKM
Blog
http://terrytyler59.blogspot.co.uk/
Book Review Blog
http://terrytylerbookreviews.blogspot.co.uk/
I was intrigued by the blurb for The House of York – love and loss, murderous intent, abduction, a compelling saga – and having read quite a few of Terry’s previous books I knew I was in safe hands before I started reading. What I wasn’t prepared for was just how astonishingly good this book actually is. Very few authors could carry off multiple first person viewpoints, but Terry Tyler not only carries it off, she makes it into an art form.
The story pivots around Lisa, widowed single mum who falls for wealthy businessman Elias York and finds herself plunged headlong into his complicated family life where nothing is as it seems. Throughout the book we meet other key characters, such as Elias’s sister Megan (my personal favourite), and his brothers Gabriel and Richard. Each section has its own distinct voice, and each chapter will have you riveted to your seat, eager to find out more.
Tyler is the master of the unnerving story line, and this book is no exception – just when you think you know where it’s heading, you are thrust down another ally, and it is the twists and turns as well as the incredibly well-drawn characters that make this book a joy. At times, while reading The House of York, I lost myself completely and the world of the York family became entirely real to me. I did not want this book to end, and I know it’s one I will read again in the future. Highly recommended, five stars.
December 4, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Thank you so very much for this, Jo! And of the photos I sent you, I knew you would choose that one!!!!! You can see notes for The House of York pinned up on the wall behind me – yes, okay, I use blu-tack on the living room walll….
xx 😀
December 4, 2015 at 6:01 pm
Terry’s advice for Twitter and author platforms is really useful the book market really is saturated and new authors really need to invest time in good policies, like sharing and not spamming their book at readers, supporting reviewers and learning to accept feedback which might improve their writing or their next book.
December 4, 2015 at 6:56 pm
You tell ’em Rosie! Seriously, though, I feel sorry for anyone starting out now, it’s so hard just to get read in the first place. I’m so glad I review for you because it would never have occurred to me to read some of the fab books I’ve read – the more book blogs you can get on the better, I think!
December 4, 2015 at 6:49 pm
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Great insight into Terry Tyler’s creative thinking and how to manage multiple points of view in a novel.
December 4, 2015 at 6:57 pm
Thank you for reading, Judith! Look forward to seeing you on The Zodiac Files on the 13th 🙂
December 7, 2015 at 4:03 pm
Thank you, Judith xx
December 4, 2015 at 10:00 pm
I love to read about Terry’s lifestyle- not doing Christmas or going out much. I’d love that.
December 5, 2015 at 9:15 am
Aha, I spotted my husband as the right man for me as the big 5-0 loomed, Liz!!!!! I know, we look at the calendar and say, ooh look, we haven’t got to go anywhere for a fortnight, yippee! Funny, isn’t it ~ 20 years ago (or less) I would have found that depressing.
December 5, 2015 at 12:07 pm
Yes, apart from my trips to Portugal, which is my other home, I really hate having any appointments in my diary these days, but in my early 20s a Saturday night at home would have been so depressing.
December 4, 2015 at 10:29 pm
Lots of good advice about writing and marketing books. Terry is definitely deserving of being crowned “the Twitter queen”! 🙂
December 5, 2015 at 9:18 am
Wasn’t intentional, Wendy! I just really enjoy the site – I adored MySpace (used it only for social/creative reasons, was before I self pubbed), loathed FB – was so glad to discover another site that I feel ‘right’ with. Thanks for reading! x
December 5, 2015 at 1:41 pm
So agree about Twitter use..I am currently weeding out all those people who just promote their book and never chat! Counterintuitive
December 6, 2015 at 11:03 am
I don’t bother to weed them out, because I do Twitter from my ‘mentions’ more – basically, if they don’t talk to me, or retweet people, or interact in any way I’m never going to see them anyway. I make a note of interesting profiles when doing my follow backs, and retweet them, or sometimes make some comment to them; if they never respond to that, it’s their loss. 😀 😉
December 7, 2015 at 8:24 am
ps, anyone who is reading this ~ I’d just like to point out that when I say I haven’t heard good reports from anyone who has paid for advertising or promotion via book marketers that I am not saying ‘it’s never worth it’, just that I have not heard anyone say they’ve had good results. I’m talking about the people who you pay to do Facebook and Twitter posts for you, mostly, or Facebook ads. Obviously there are good ones around, but you need to get personal recommendations from others, don’t just read the testimonials.
December 8, 2015 at 9:36 am
Excellent interview questions and interesting and useful answers. I totally agree that it’s getting more and more difficult for an indie author to get people to read their books. The successful marketing strategies have been taken up by so many people that it’s very crowded. ‘Thinking outside the box’ is necessary in a quest for promotional ideas and opportunities that are new and fresh. And then when they prove successful and others join in, yet more new ideas will be needed!
December 16, 2015 at 7:02 pm
Linda, thanks so much for reading – sorry I’m late replying, I’ve only just checked back! You are so, so right. I hear from people all the time saying ‘well, it said in such and such to do this…’ – yes, 2 years ago. In partic, the free promotion. Someone told me recently that he was paying for inclusion on lots of free sites. I said, don’t bother, apart from BookBub the free promo is kind of ‘over’. He got about 200 downloads, not even enough to make a difference to it’s Amazon visibility. I’ve heard so many people say that Twitter doesn’t ‘work’; it does, if you use it right, but it takes time and a bit of intelligence, not just thumping out tweets!
July 5, 2016 at 8:55 am
And I have only just read your reply, Terry!!! How’s that for ‘better late than never’? Thanks for taking the trouble. If your recent books were in pbk, I would definitely be reading. I don’t do kindle. However, I have a friend who is Plantaganet and Tudor fan – and I will recommend to her!